One music critic is quoted about the album in the Moby Grape Wikipedia page: "'Moby Grape' is as refreshing today as it was upon first release, and if fate prevented the group from making a follow-up that was as consistently strong, for one brief shining moment Moby Grape proved to the world they were one of America's great bands. While history remembers the Grateful Dead and Jefferson Airplane as being more important, the truth is neither group ever made an album quite this good."
But, as I mentioned, the band seemed to be cursed. Their manager (Matthew Katz) was about as terrible as a manager could be. They fired him in 1967, but he'd got them in legal troubles that would bedevil them for decades before they finally beat him in court. One band member, Skip Spence, lost his mind in 1968 and had to be institutionalized. Another, Bob Mosley, strangely joined the Marines in 1969. Bad things kept happening that stopped the group from reaching their full potential. But for a brief time in early and mid-1967, everything was working and they were great.
This album attempts to collect the best live recordings from that special time. Note that I had prepared this album long ago, and it was sitting in my pile of hundreds of albums to be posted at this blog someday. But last month (April 2023), Prof. Stoned posted an album that is very similar to what I intended to post. You can find it here:
http://www.profstoned.com/2023/04/moby-grape-grape-live-unreleased-1968.html
Prof. Stoned is doing great things at his blog, remixing music to improve the sound quality. So I've used his versions for much of this, so this can have the best sound quality as well.
It starts out with Moby Grape's live performance at the legendary Monterey Pop Festival in June 1967. Most musical acts at the festival played short sets, and that was the case for this band too. Four of the songs they played have been officially released on the box set for the whole festival. But a fifth, "Hey Grandma," was filmed and only appeared on a DVD. Prof. Stoned converted that and made it sound good. But it turns out they also played a sixth song, "Fall on You." Unfortunately, no version of this is publicly available. I also couldn't find any other decent live version from 1967. So I used a version from a 1968 concert bootleg to give an idea of what the entire Monterey Pop set sounded like.
The next three songs, tracks 8 through 10, are unreleased. But they come from a soundboard bootleg of a concert at an unknown date in January 1967. It's a shame this source only has three songs, but it's better than nothing.
The remainder of the album comes from another January 1967 concert. These have been officially released, on an album called "Live (Historic Live Moby Grape Performances 1966-1969)." Prof. Stoned also included them on his album. So, like the Monterey Pop versions, I've used his versions here.
It's a shame that there's so little high quality live recordings of Moby Grape from 1967 compared to other similar bands like the Grateful Dead and Jefferson Airplane. But if you put them all together as I did here, it shows an exciting and talented band, with three lead guitarists and five vocalists singing harmonies. Perhaps it was inevitable that a band with five singer-songwriters couldn't hold together for very long. But at least they had their "brief shining moment," and we have some recordings of it.
This album is 49 minutes long.
01 talk by Tommy Smothers (Moby Grape)
02 Hey Grandma (Moby Grape)
03 Indifference (Moby Grape)
04 Mr. Blues (Moby Grape)
05 Sitting by the Window (Moby Grape)
06 Omaha (Moby Grape)
07 Fall on You (Moby Grape)
08 It Depends on You (Moby Grape)
09 Changes (Moby Grape)
10 Leavin' (Moby Grape)
11 Ain't No Use (Moby Grape)
12 Rounder (Moby Grape)
13 Looper (Moby Grape)
14 Bitter Wind (Moby Grape)
15 Changes (Moby Grape)
16 Indifference (Moby Grape)
17 Someday (Moby Grape)
https://www.upload.ee/files/15205577/MobyGr_1967_Lve1967_atse.zip.html
The cover is a screenshot I made from the DVD performance of "Hey Grandma" at the Monterey Pop Festival. I took the band name at the top from a concert poster. I added the text at the bottom in a similar style.
mucho thanx,amigo ...
ReplyDeleteIMHO, the first Moby Grape album is one of the 10 best albums of all time. Finding live Moby Grape is the proverbial needle in the haystack. Thank you for the one song this added to my collection - the version of Hey Grandma from Monterey which had not surfaced previously! I was lucky enough to see them live twice, not at their peak, but in 1969 and 1971 at the Fillmore East. Love these guys!
ReplyDeleteHere's a fun video:
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rVYZ4hYnt0
Another Band that should be in the R&R Hall of Fame (so many artists there should not be) Thanx so much for this and all the great work that you do.
ReplyDeleteIndeed. I don't care much about the Hall of Fame because it's so screwed up.
DeleteAnd one more thing, The manager supposedly screwed up the 2nd album (WOW)...With alternate tracks from the compilations "Vintage" and "The Place And The Time" plus the bonus tracks from the reissue of WOW, I have recreated a fantastic followup to the debut...I don't know why they didn't use such powerful versions instead of trying to sound like Sgt. Pepper:
DeletePerhaps in the future if you find the time you can do your magic on WOW...it is ripe for a redo (skip the Jams except for "The Lake")...it could have been a double album without the Jams...thanks again
The Place And The Time (alt ver) Wow bonus
ReplyDeleteMurder In My Heart (orig. ver) Wow
Bitter Wind (alt ver) Vintage
Looper (Outtake) Vintage
Track Five (alt ver) Vintage
He (orig ver) Wow
Motorcycle Irene (orig ver) Wow
Loosely Remembered (outtake) The Place And The Time
Funky Tunk (orig ver) Wow
Skip's Song (outtake) Vintage
Sweet Ride (Soundtrack song) The Place And The Time
Naked If I Want To (Elec. redo) Wow
Rounder (Instrumental) Vintage
The Lake (orig ver) Grape Jam
You Can Do Anything (demo) Vintage
Stop (outtake) Wow bonus track
There are other versions of songs to choose from the comps. I listed my faves...
That's a good idea. I actually was already working on something similar, but your idea is more developed. Could you please send me what you created? Thanks.
DeletePaul,
ReplyDeletethanks to you and Prof. Stoned for the Great Grape albums!!! i became a fan when they were 'featured' in a broadcast on WNET (NY Public Television in late '66 or early '67. There were other acts including The Chambers Brothers who performed an extensive version of 'Time Has Come Today'. The show was lengthy with the Jacob? light show featured as backdrop. Moby Grape did 10 songs or more live! I've never been able to locate a copy of the broadcast; and while The Museum of Television Broadcasting in NYC claims to have a copy, they have never been able to locate it for me anytime I've visited... it would be a great add to your catalog (jus' sayin') - again, THANKS
There's a YouTube video of what it says is a BBC bootleg by Moby Grape. You may want to look into that for your BBC series.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the tip. I've come across that actually. Unfortunately, it was only a four song studio session in 1969, so that's not much to go on.
DeleteSince you follow Prof Stoned, I guess you're aware that he has remastered several excellent collections of BBC perfiormances: https://www.profstoned.com/search/label/BBC - these make a good complement to your BBC series.
ReplyDelete